Dan, Steve's role in these events has been to play the devil's advocate. His mission is to provoke controversy (which he has succeeded here). We can count on Steve to be our constant skeptic who challenges us to simplify even as we amplify on our ideas (big and small). I believe everyone who has joined in this effort to make IAOC possible joins with you in applauding Elizabeth's efforts this week. Personally, I am enjoying the discussion, and learning a lot in the process (as I did from your major contribution on the Neurology of PR earlier this morning). Don Dunnington President, IAOC